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"KILLINURE" or "KILLYNURE"
Co. Armagh

On this page, I am assembling photos, information and links to information all relating to Killynure, home to the OLIVER, JACKSON & BROWN family (plus others to be sure!).
Sharon Oddie Brown. December 5, 2004.

Updated: February 7, 2007
Updated March 31, 2010. Added 1714 Archbiships notes as well as St. Marks burials of COUSERs connected to Killynure.
Updated August 22, 2011 Comparison of 1835 and 1864 maps
For a rough map, see Map of Environs of Killynure &Maghery
To situate the Townland of Killynure in Co. Armagh, see: Map of Lisnadill
See also 1911 Census of Killynure

This photo of Killynure House is likely from the mid-1880s (Courtesy of Dianne BROWN). The house itself can be seen today a few hundred feet off the road at the end of a lane bracketed by towering chestnut trees. It is close to two miles past Milford on the road to Monaghan, in a dip in the landscape popularly known as "Brown's Hollow". Amanda KNOX's parents bought the house when Blin BROWN had to sell (because of advancing age and difficulty of upkeep). They bequeathed one half shares each to Amanda and Edgar who both actively farm the land and keep it up.

This is a contemporary aerial shot of Killynure House. The original red brick home is the home built by Thompson Brown and the outbuildings to the immediate east (right) predate it and may include the original bungalo home of the OLIVER family, now used for agricultural purposes or storage. The curved roof structures as well as the white outbuildings in front of them are modern. The brick house was finished by June 1883.

 

The map of the townland of Killynure is split between two maps: Ord 3:16 & 3:12.
See PRONI VAL/2A/2/12A. When I was last at PRONI, I couldn't read the details relating to the map as another reader had the file.

The redbrick house shown above was built by Thompson BROWN(E) in 1874 and is just above the main Monaghan-Armagh road. The house that preceeded it was of the low bungalo style with thatched roof. The orchard to the west of the house was removed in the mid-1960's and is now planted in productive pasture. Edgar & Amanda KNOX, the current co-owners, remember the trees being very old and non-bearing.

Still surrounding the property is what is called a "March Hedge" - the name given to the hedge that the owner or his hired help would walk around to ensure safety.

I was told that before 1835, the time of this map, the old Monaghan Road apparently ran behind the house at the top of the property and past the home to the east that would have belonged to the MENARY family. There was a hill called "School Hill" to the north of Killynure House on account of a school there that had been started by the Jackson sisters (I know nothing more of this enticing bit although the number 276 is likely where it was). Nanogh Hill was also North-East of the House. The fields surrounding the house were called "Orchard Field" (where the orchard was) and east of the lane at the front of the house was"Bush Field" with "Marlow Field" to the west.

"Cousers Corner" is in the south-west corner.

Map of Killynure

The soil that the KNOX family currently raise their cows and cattle on is exceedingly fertile - it is said that they get three times the yield of crops that an equivalent acreage would yield in most of England. They also graze their cows on nearby fields leased from other owners - just as the OLIVER family did years before them and likely some of the same fields in Enagh and other neighbouring townlands. Using of all these fields, they currently raise about 150 milking cows as well as 350 assorted cattle. It is a 365 day a year undertaking - a job with little mercy for those days when a back might ache, or a body feel the chills. In spite of the advantages of contemporary mechanization, it is likely that earlier genererations experienced much of the same ongoing labour and fears over the vagarities of the markets, weather and such. Still and all, to feel the soft muzzle of a new born calf, or to watch the sun pull the mist up from the early morning fields, it is a job and a place with its own particular glories.

The house that Thompson BROWN built was certainly built to last. The pitch-pine used in the original window casement has never rotted. In fact, there isn't a bit of dry rot anywhere. I can attest to the fact that even to this day the stairs don't creak - a testament to a well built house. Over the years, some changes have been made. I am told that the lead roofing that can be seen on the earlier black and white photo was removed during WWI so it could be melted down for bullets. The room that was the maid's working area is now a small family den. Family memories of the house at Killynure include a toilet with a delft blue pattern and bell pulls for the maids in all of the bedrooms. The remnants of the bell pulls can still be seen.

It is interesting to compare the two maps beneath. The one on the left was done at the time of Griffiths Valuation in 1864, which would have been before the brick structre above was built. The drawing shows three buildings arranged in a horseshoe, with another building to the east of that. About 30 years earlier, this map done in 1835 shows only two buildings, facing each other. It is curious, given the pattern of tree plantings which continue past the buildings.
Killynure Griffiths Killynure 1835


In the mid 1800s, the house to the west of Killynure would have been the home of William MENARY who married Mary JACKSON.
In 1816 Benjamin OLIVER - Mary JACKSON's grandfather (also the grandfather of Sir Thomas JACKSON) - planted 270 trees at Killynure & Enagh - not that these were the trees shown in the map beneath (the old orchard). The trees that Benjamin planted were "ash, larch, scotch fir and spruce fir" (see: Killinure Tree Planting: 1816.)

I am told by a local neighbour, Eugene Fegan, that the original Oliver home was the more usual low bungalow style with a thatched roof. No pictures of this are known to me, but the home of Henry William OLIVER of Dungannon, Co. Tyrone is very similar. I am guessing that the white building to your left as you enter from the driveway may very well have been the original home.


Family lore has it that one of the Oliver children died an untimely death as a result of drowning in the well which is behind the current house (covered by a substantial concrete slab!).
In 1865 - and here my note-taking was a little shoddy as I was rushed beyond all reason - Thomas & William OLIVER were still the occupiers of KILLYNURE, the immediate Lessors were the Vicars Choral of ARMAGH (which meant that they leased the land from them) and the rateable annual income was £60.10.0. I am assuming that Thomas and William were the brothers of Elizabeth OLIVER as according to her marriage certificate, she was resident at Killynure at the time of her marriage in 1838. Thomas OLIVER is also mentioned as resident in Killinure in the March 31, 1865 probate of the will of Barbara DONALDSON.


Theresa NICHOL née FEGAN and her brother Eugene FEGAN are decendants of the O'NEILs who lived at Killynure. She recalls that her great-grandfather or great-grandmother went to the school that either the OLIVERs or the BROWNs had on the hill at Killynure. Her Great Grandmother was Mary O’NEIL and her Great Aunt’s Rose & Anna O’NEIL. Consintine O’NEIL and his son Consintine O’NEIL also went to that school. There was a gatehouse at the entrance where Mr. MacIRATH lived. Mosey THOMPSON worked there as did John O’HAGEN and Charlie McCOY and Patty McSHANE.

1714 ARCHIBISHOP OF ARMAGH-
A return of the tenant names of the Town of Armagh returned at the Manor Court held by the Archbishop of Armagh in April 1714:

No 1371

Samuel Munarry, Presbyterian
(Townland of Kellenure)

NOTE: I would take this to be Samuel MENARY of Killynure. In later years, the MENARYs lived in the townland to the west of Killynure, Magherkilcranny. I need to recheck this source for other names.

KILLYNURE FREEHOLDER RECORDS (now available on line at PRONI):

Name of Freeholder Place of
Abode
Situation of
Freehold
Landlord's
Name
Value of
Freehold
Names of Life or Lives or other Tenure Place & Date of Registry
Oliver, Benjamin Killynure Knockagraffy The King 20 Lawrence, James & Neal Nugent Armagh,
6 June 1829
Oliver, William Killynure Knockagraffy William Oliver 20   Armagh,
Nov. 6, 1832

 

KILLYNURE 1850 GRIFFITHS: Presumably some are owners, some are renters, some hired help.

Last Name First Name Notes
Couser Joseph "Rep" I would think that they lived at the section to the south of the road to Monaghan, bounded by the road up to Aghavilly (see map above). St. Mark's burial records for Killynure COUSERs include: Mary COUSER (1881-1935); William Benjamin COUSER (1876-1942) and Margaret COUSER (1878-1969). The bus stop there is called Couser's Corner.
Couser Wm. Sr. He likely lived in the neighbouring townland of Aghavilly.
Couser Wm. Jr. He likely lived in the neighbouring townland of Aghavilly.
Dennis Henry  
Donaghy Mary  
Donaghy Sarah  
Lennon James  
Oliver Thomas Thomas OLIVER (abt 1812-1867) a son of Benjamin OLIVER
Oliver William William OLIVER (Abt 1810-1873) a son of Benjamin OLIVER
Oliver Wm. As above.
O'Neil Arthur O’NEILs were also dressmakers. Their descendants include Theresa NICHOL née FEGAN and her brother Eugene FEGAN.
O'Neil Felix Felix O’NEIL was a strongman who went to America.
Skillen John  
Taggert Samuel  

 

ERECTED
IN LOVING MEMORY
JOHN COUSER, KILLINURE
WHO DIED 6th NOVEMBER1885
AGED 57 YEARS
ALSO HIS WIFE
MARGARET
WHO DIED 17th FEBRUARY 1922
AGED 78 YEARS

 

Photographed in 2006 at St. Marks, Armagh.

William COUSER

 

COUSERs from Killynure: Burials in St, Marks Records (NOTE: John above is not noted)

 

Plot No

Address

Surname

 

Interred

Age

14176

Killynure, Milford

COUSER

Mary

1

1

1935

54.0

14471

Killynure, Milford

COUSER

William Benjamin

8

5

1942

66.0

15431

Killynure, Milford

COUSER

Margaret

6

4

1969

91.0

 

COUSER & Killynure links. SOURCE: Cowzer Family Genealogy Site

 

Place

Date

Name

Birth date

Killynure, Armagh, Ireland

1869

James Armstrong COUSER

3 Feb 1869

Killynure, Armagh, Ireland

1869

Letitia COUSER

8 Jan 1869

Killynure, Armagh, Armagh, Ireland

1870

John Mc Watters COUSER

5 Feb 1870

Cavanacaw, Armagh, Ireland

1870

Sarah Mary COUSER

1 Sep 1870

Killynure, Armagh, Armagh, Ireland

1871

COUSER Unnamed female

13 Apr 1871

 

A news article from the ARMAGH GUARDIAN, 26 August, 1845:

HAY TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION
On Saturday, the 30th of August, instant, at
Lisdrumard and Killynure, about two miles from Armagh,
(by order of Messrs. Thomas and William Oliver,)
ELEVEN LARGE PIKES of PRIME WELL-SAVED
FORCE GRASS HAY, the growth of the years 1843,
1844, and 1845. Sale to commence at Lisdrumard, at eleven o’clock.—
Terms at Sale. DANIEL M’ALLEN, Auctioneer.

Killynure, 19th August, 1845.

How the following fits into Killynure's ownership, I don't know:

Armagh Guardian December 3, 1844
NARROW ESCAPE.--As William Maunsell, Esq., of Killinure House, was out with the harriers on Saturday last, near Athlone, he charged what he thought was a four foot wall, but at the other side was a deep pit. Owing to the goodness of his mare his life was saved, for she made an extraordinary spring, and reached the bank with her fore feet, so that he was able to throw himself on the bank; she fell back into the pit, from which she was extricated, but much injured.

LANDOWNERS OF COUNTY ARMAGH 1870s- Compiled by Jean RICE
John COUSER Sr., address Killynure, Armagh, owned 13 acres
William COUSER same address owned 13 acres
William OLIVER, of Killynure, Armagh, owned 55 acres.
Arthur O'NEIL, address Killynure, Armagh owned 38 acres.

COUNTY ARMAGH 100 YEARS AGO. BASSETTS'S 1888 DIRECTORY
BROWN, T. Killynure.
COUSER, W. Jun., Killynure (also a Samuel and a David COUSER at Aghavilly)
MONTGOMERY, R. Killynure
O'NEIL, Felix, Killynure

KILLYNURE - ARMAGH PROBATE RECORDS

SURNAME

GIVEN NAME

YEAR

TYPE

LOCATION

CO

RECORD

NOTES

Dobbin

John

1771

W

Killynure

 

Armagh

Could be a son of James DOBBIN & Mary OLIVER m. Dec 6, 1711
Graham Henry 1833 AB Killinure   Clogher An Anne GRAHAM married a William OLIVER on Dec 4, 1823.
Graham Henry 1833 W Killinure   Clogher An Anne GRAHAM married a William OLIVER on Dec 4, 1823

Hughes

Arthur

1796

W

Killynure

 

Armagh

He probably married an OLIVER- or a DOBBIN!

Kernaghan

James

1787

W

Killynure

Arm

Armagh

An Eliza KERNAHAN married a Benjamin OLIVER Jan 22, 1864. They had a daughter Annie in 1866

Oliver

Benjamin

1832

W

Killynure

 

Armagh

This is the husband of Elizabeth BRADFORD (1785-1825 )and our ancestor for sure

Records of Royal School of Armagh include:

Griffiths, Charles Huston Griffiths, William James of Dean's Bridge, Co. Armagh b.18 Oct 1879 Born at Killenure, Co. Armagh, 18th October 1879.
September 1892 to December 1896. Manager of Standard Bank at George, Cape Colony.
Griffiths, William Aubrey Griffiths, William James of Dean's Bridge, Co. Armagh b.19 Nov 1882 Born at Killenure, 19th November, 1882, brother of Charles Huston GRIFFITHS. August 1893 to December, 1900; Linen Business

 

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