NOTE: This is a page in which is still very much in
process and includes me thinking out loud about JOHNSTONs.
Sharon Oddie Brown. October 4, 2009
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Woodvale History from Deeds
DETECTIVE WORK:
Going from the 1881 document concerning the COULTER Estate, it
first appeared that Woodvale was in the Townland of Ducavan, Parish of Roche. What
confused me about this is that although a Thomas JOHNSTON was the immediate
lessor of all of Ducavan in 1854, there was no building or set of buildings in
that townland worth more than £1.0.0. And Woodvale was supposedly a building of
some substance.
Then a conversation with Eilie RYDER née McBRIDE who was
born at Freeduff in 1920 tipped me off about a new place to look. She recalled
visiting Woodvale in the 1930s. Her older brother Billie was engaged at the
time and the family visited the JOHNSTONs as part of the rounds that one did at
such a time. This wasn’t long after Billie and Eilie’s sister Mary Francis
McBRIDE, a promising second year medical student at Trinity, had tragically died
of TB that she caught during her medical rounds. The grief over her death was still
hitting the family hard and although that may have not been the cause, this engagement
didn’t result in marriage. But back to Woodvale. Eilie remembered that
the farm was situated such that it straddled the border between Armagh and
Louth, a convenient placement in those times for all sorts of reasons. This was
curious since Duncavan was not on the border. Eilie also told me that the house
was a substantial 2 story house. Although there was “no cordiality with the
Johnstons” and the McBRIDEs, they were still “cousins” of her father and
therefore needed to be included in the family social circles. They were likely
2nd or 3rd cousins since Dr. William Scott McBRIDE, their
father, had only one sibling - a brother Alfred who died unmarried and without
issue.
HUNCHES? When it comes to possible relations, the
Freeduff Church records show an Olivia DONALDSON & an Alexander JOHNSTON of
Cloghog having 3 children: Mary Jane b.1863; John James b. 1865; and a second
Mary Jane b. 1869 (presumably the first one died in the interval).
Thanks to Pete Schermerhorn, master of all things map
related, I then learned that Woodvale was actually in the townland of
Glassdrummond: ...And there is Woodvale House ... between the border and the
road fork in Ballsmill village - it looks as if it's the very first place on
your left after you cross the border from Louth into Armagh (perhaps an
"active" place, during the Troubles). SOURCE: Discoverer
map Number 28 - First Series, published in 1982. In a second email, Pete added: ......the road into Ballsmill is a minor, unnamed/unnumbered road. There are
some areas off woodland shown around Woodvale House, and across the road.
Perhaps a demesne?
So, then I figured that I had it. Glasdrumond, Parish of
Creggan, Co. Armagh with part of the holding in Co. Louth. Except that the Griffiths holding relating to John
JOHNSTON includes a lake. SEE:
Ord S 31 |
GLASSDRUMMAN, Parish of
Creggan, Co. Armagh |
Ref |
Occupier |
Lesser |
Descr. |
Area |
Land |
Buildings |
Value |
75 a
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John Johnstone |
James Eastwood |
House, offices and land |
33.3.5 |
23.35.0 |
7.15.0 |
31.10.0 |
76
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John Johnstone |
James Eastwood |
Water (lake) |
2.0.26 |
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77 |
John Johnstone |
James Eastwood |
Water (lake) |
13.1.34 |
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Currently, there are no lakes beside Woodvale, but then Pete Schermerhorn had a great thought: There may not be a lake now, but the stream running along the north side of the road at Woodvale may have been dammed at some time. After all, Ballsmill implies some sort of "mill", and water power was always a good option when available. And I suspect that the Woodvale estate included that land across the road (a bit wooded on the 1982 NI map). If you look at the watercourses across the border into Louth, you'll see some definite straightening of the stream bed which actually forms the boundary between Tatnadarra and Drumbilla townlands - so the stream had been "managed" for a long, long time. I would suspect that somewhere near the Armagh/Louth border, there was a dam on that stream, to form a reservoir or lake.
Other than this, there were other sources that I checked for
Woodvale:
- A Creggan Church record (see beneath under my notes on JOHNSTON)
placed Woodvale in the townland of Glassdrummond.
- There were holdings in Glassdrummond of a John JOHNSTON in
1854 (Griffiths) and an Elizabeth JOHNSTON during the Census of 1901. In
1935, A John T. JOHNSTON was resident there. SOURCE: http://www.devlin-family.com/timelineglassdrummond.htm
- Although a Thomas JOHNSTON was the immediate lessor of all
of Ducavan, there was no building or set of buildings in that townland
worth more than £1.0.0. So, it seems that he lived at Glassdrummond and
held leases for Ducavan.
- NOTE: Ducavan is a townland of 99 acres with
Shortstone East and West on its southern border, Ballinbinaby on its
western border and Edenkill aka Edenakill on its northern and eastern
border.
JOHNSTON NOTES:
My interest in Woodvale comes out of trying to run down the
stories of the JOHNSTONs who may be related to Sir Thomas JACKSON and it would
seem that they are the JOHNSTONs who are also connected to Woodvale:
At present, I have a very modest stub of a family tree (NOTE: I suspect that others can fill in more of this
for me):
Descendants of John Johnston
- John Johnston - 1753 +Unnamed
- Thomas Johnston +Angel Unnamed
i. John Johnston
ii. Henry Johnston
- Graham Johnston
i. Elizabeth Johnston
- John Johnston 1729 – 1816 (of Woodvale & Urcher) +Mary
Unnamed 1721 – 1805
i. John Johnston (Eldest son – of Longfield)
ii. Thomas Johnston (NOTE: only a hunch)
iii. James Johnston of Woodvale (NOTE: only
a hunch) + Jane?
1. Graham
Johnston (NOTE: only a hunch)
- Ann Johnston +Adam Noble
- Charity Johnston +Thomas Shekelton
*2nd Wife of John Johnston: + Catherine
Darby
- Richard Johnston +Anne Jackson
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- JOHNSTONs were originally Presbyterians, adventurers
stationed at the Fews Barracks. SOURCE: An Account of The Barony of
Upper Fews in the County of Armagh. Jon Donaldson. p11.
- SEE: http://www.archive.org/details/redmondcountohan00carlrich for an account of Redmond Count O’Hanlon: The Irish Reparee by
William Carleton.
- It would seem that “my” JACKSON family and the JOHNSTONs
were close – in death, if not in life because in 1785 in the Creggan
Vestry records, there was a note made about arrangements for graves: JOHNSTON-JACKSON.
26’ by 16 ft of ground granted to John JOHNSTON Esq. Of Woodvale in the S.W. corner
with liberty to enclose same and 16 feet square to Mr. David JACKSON & family adjoining Mr. JOHNSTON.
- A Richard JOHNSTON married Anne JACKSON sometime in the
late 1700s. He was quite possibly the Richard JOHNSTON referred to in the
1753 will of John JOHNSTON as the child of his housekeeper, Catherine
DARBY. If he was the child of John JOHNSTON (and the will bequest leads me
to believe this), then he was also a half brother to Thomas, Graham, John,
Ann and Charity JOHNSTON.
- The John JOHNSTON who was a half brother to Richard JOHNSTON,
was the 3rd legitimate son of his father, John JOHNSTON, Known
colloquially as “Johnston, King of The Fews” (a disparaging nickname – he
was a much hated “tory” hunter). He had 3 sons: John, the eldest of
Longfield; Thomas (who died before 1830) and James of Woodvale. I would
expect James JOHNSTON to be the ancestor of the JOHNSTONs of Woodvale in
the 1930s.
- 1822 Co. Louth Freeholders Lists: Johnson John; Longfield
Co. Mon.; Roachkeane and Creggan; -; Dundalk 27/10/1806; Upper Dundalk;
£50; -NOTE: in 1776 Dec 4 deed includes COULTER family connections to
Longfield, Co. Monaghan (NOTE: There is a Longfield Cottage near
Carrickmacross). http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/1776Dec4-COULTER-POLLOCK.html
As does http://thesilverbowl.cm/documents/1851APr28-COULTER-CHARLETON.html
In the 1862 Thoms Directory, a Thomas
JOHNSTON is listed as a magistrate from Longfield, Carrickmacross, Co.
Monaghan.
- Here lieth the body of Mary JOHNSTON wife of John JOHNSTON
of Woodvale in this County who
departed this life on 28 (?) December 1805 (?) aged 84 years. Here also
lieth the remains of the said John JOHNSTON, who departed this life the
12th day of December 1816 aged 87 years. SOURCE: Creggan guide to
Creggan Church and Graveyard. Kevin McMahon and Jim Murphy. Page 32
- “John JOHNSTON, a Creggan churchwarden in 1776, was the
third son of John JOHNSTON, Roxboro, better known, perhaps, as JOHNSTON of
the Fews. ... down the years, this branch of the JOHNSTON family carried BALL
as a Christian name and the last generation there was a Richard George
Ball JOHNSTON and a John Thomas Ball JOHNSTON. The ruins of the mill after
which the village of Ballsmill was named, may still be seen in the townland
of Ballynaclosha. John JOHNSTON, Roxboro, is also buried here. He was
appointed chief Constable of the Fews in 1710 and his success and
notoriety as a Tory Hunter for nearly half a century gave rise to the
prayer: Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews, save us from JOHNSTON King
of the Fews. .. when he died in 1759 among bequests and his wills were:
I leave to the poor of the parish of Creggan the sum of 5 pounds to be
divided among them in such manner as the minister of the said parish and any
two executors may think fit. I leave to my esteemed friend the Rev. Hugh
HILL minister of Creggan my best horse or mare at the time of my decease
as an acknowledgment for his many favours and a token of my regard for
him ... SOURCE: Creggan guide to Creggan Church and Graveyard. Kevin
McMahon and Jim Murphy. Page 37
- Standing in what is known as the "Ball
Enclosure", this headstone is a memorial to Elizabeth Page, daughter
of Captain Sam Ball, Crossmaglen, a descendant of Thomas Ball, the
military adventurer who was granted 5911 acres of land in the Baron of
Upper Fews at the time of the Cromwellian Plantation. Thomas Ball may have
lived at, or on the site of, "Woodvale
House" for some time, as the Hearth Money Rolls of 1664 record
that he paid on four hearths in the townland of Glassdrummond. "Woodvale House", occupied by the Johnstons
of the Fews in the 18th. century, stood in the townland of Glassdrummond.
The name of the village adjacent to the house may have been changed by the
Johnstons from Ballynaclera to Ballsmill. The Ball surname is also
preserved in Camlyball, a townland near Newtownhamilton. SOURCE: Creggan
guide to Creggan Church and Graveyard. Kevin McMahon and Jim Murphy.
Page 45.
- Registry of Deeds abstract of wills 1746 to 1785.
No 355 [NOTE: My notes here are
a bit of a jumble, but informative]: Johnston, Thomas, Dublin, major
of the 56 regt of foot 4 Oct 1765 narrate 2pp 1765. His wife Angel, his
son Jno Johnston, his son Henry Johnston, his brother in law, Adam
Noble Longfield Co. Monaghan esq, his brother in law Jackson Wray
Ballycastle Co. Antrim. and his brother John Johnston of Urcher Co.
Armagh Esq trustees. His niece Elizabeth Johnston, Daughter of his brother
Graham Johnston, the children of his sister Charity Shekelton, the
children of his brother John Johnston. His estate of town and lands of
Camilly, co. Armagh, and Coofoord, Co Meath his dwelling house at Suffolk
St Dublin, Witnesses Thos Benson, Dublin clerk, Stephen Reynolds, Dublin
apothecary, John Wolverston gent Dublin Memorial witnessed by John
Wolverston, Jno hunter clerk to said John Wolverston. 241,183, 157946
Jackson Wray (seal)
Date |
Notes |
1664 |
Thomas Ball paid Hearth Roll Tax for 4 households in
Glassdrummond – possibly including Woodvale. |
1784 Feb 10 |
A Robert JACKSON of Woodvale was a witness to DEED:
241557, 1784 Feb 10 SEAVER –BRADFORD SEE: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/1784Feb10-SEAVER-BRADFORD.html |
1789 Sept 2 |
A number of deeds mention Richard Jackson of Woodvale (NOTE:
I have yet to do more than a few fast notes of these ones):
HALL to JACKSON Book 2 (1739-1810) Deed: 414-234-270591
- Henry Hall of Loigh in the County of Tyrone, Gent. To
Robert JACKSON of Woodvale, Co Armagh Esq. Townland of Bellaghy, CO
Armagh Also mention of Ballynahon Beg
HALL to JACKSON Book 2 (1739-1810) Deed: 414-235-270597
- Henry Hall of Loigh in the County of Tyrone, Gent. To
Robert JACKSON of Woodvale, Co Armagh Esq. Townland of Bellaghy, CO
Armagh Also mention of Ballynahon Beg
WATSON to JACKSON Deed: 414-235-270598
- John WATSON of Teemore, Co Armagh Gent. In the
consideration of 300 pounds paid to him by Robert JACKSON of Woodvale,
Co. Armagh ... 94 acres with appurtenances in Parish of Mullaghbrack and
County of Armagh ... lease of three lives was formerly under Robert
Sibthorpe
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1795 |
A Jonathon JOHNSTON of Woodvale sent a letter
acknowledging payment for ₤31:10 to John and Andrew COULTER and
other sums were paid to him at this time by Samuel BRADFORD. (I have not yet
transcribed this note from a family archive) |
1830 Sept 2 |
Indenture between James JOHNSTON of
Woodvale in the County of Armagh Esquire and William JOHNSTON of Dundalk in
the County of Louth Doctor of Medicine of the first part and Elizabeth
Jackson of Urker in the County of Armagh Widow of the second part.
http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/1830Sept2-JACKSON-JOHNSTON.html#_ftn2
NOTE: In 1826, a Samuel BALL had sent a letter re: rent
reassessment to Elizabeth JACKSON (she would have been a widow for almost a
decade at this time): http://www.thesilverbowl.com/letters/1826_Ball_to_Jackson.htm |
1876 |
John JOHNSTON of Woodvale, Ballsmill, owned 79 acres in
the 1876 Landowners list. He was a Justice of the Peace. |
1881 |
DUCAVAN: John Miss M.E. JOHNSTONE, Woodvale, Ballsmill, Hackballscross, Dundalk. He has no
agent. SEE: Coulter Estate document. |
1884 June 4 |
Letter from Eliza JACKSON
née OLIVER: Mr Johnston of Woodvale is now Agent to the
Ball estate. I hope we will soon get our affairs settled; & we can settle
any [day?]. He dined with us, one day lately; & advise very favourably
dispensed. All the books & accounts of the Estate are to be given up to
him on the 10th inst. Mr Brooke has made a total mess
of his employers business in more cases besides ours. SEE: file:///C:/Users/Sharon/Documents/Webstuff/theSilverBowl2/letters/1884June4-ElizaJACKSON-Thomas.html |
1911 |
Census. At House
#10 in Glassdrummand. Unfortunately, the sheet linked to this page turns out
to be the preceding sheet, so I can’t read the description of the property on
line. Nonetheless, I did learn:
Name |
Age |
Relation |
JOHNSTON, Elizabeth
A. |
70 |
Widow |
JOHNSTON, Mary
E. I |
34 |
Daughter |
JOHNSTON, John
T. B.* |
31 |
Son Farmer &
Justice of the Peace. |
JOHNSTON,
Richard N. |
28 |
Son & Civil
Engineer |
SMITH, Dorothy |
9 |
Grand-daughter |
CLELAND, Lily |
20 |
niece |
* Likely John Thomas Ball JOHNSTON
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1935 |
John T. JOHNSTON. First
Northern Ireland revaluation
SOURCE: http://www.devlin-family.com/timelineglassdrummond.htm |
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