This Memorial concerns properties relating to Anne OLIVER’s marriage to Samuel ELGEE of Rochvale, Co. Monaghan. At present I believe she is the daughter of David OLIVER & Susannah WALKER of Ballyrea, Co. Armagh. The marriage settlement is with her brothers Joseph & Benjamin OLIVER. The William OLIVER of Laragh who witnesses the agreement is also likely her brother. Since the properties involve lands in Dundalk, I suspect a connection to Charles ELGEE of Dundalk and hence to one of his daughter, Jane Frances ELGEE mother of Oscar WILDE.

Sharon Oddie Brown. October 25, 2006

 

1801 Sept 25

DEED: 539-293-355212
OLIVER-OLIVER

NOTE: County Louth Graveyard inscriptions include several ELGEE names but the only OLIVER name is Mary Jane OLIVER (a couple of centuries later):


ELGEE Agnes, Dundalk, St. Nicholas, Typescript
ELGEE Agnes, Dundalk, St. Nicholas, JAPMD 1916
ELGEE Anne, Dundalk, St. Nicholas, Typescript
ELGEE Anne, Dundalk, St. Nicholas, JAPMD 1916
ELGEE Charles, Dundalk, St. Nicholas, JAPMD 1916

 

These names are likely all included in the following flat limestone slab:

 

Beneath this Stone are deposited

the mortal remains of Anne Elgee who

departed this life the 12th of March 1826

Aged 70 years Also the remains of   her

Sister Agnes Elgee who departed this life

the 27th of Jan 1838 Aged 75  years the

last Surviving Children of the late Mr

Charles Elgee of Dundalk.

 

JAPMD: Journal of the Association for the Preservation of Memorials of the Dead

Another useful source may be: County Louth Archaeological and Historical Journal volume XXII number 1 (1989) Wilson, Maureen: Shewell’s Lane, Lord Limerick’s demesne wall and the ELGEE Family, p. 49-53.

 

 

 

A Memorial of an [marriage?] deed bearing date of 22nd day of April 1801 and made between Samuel ELGEE[1] of Rochvale, Co Monaghan of the one part, Anne OLIVER[2] of Ballyrea[3] in the County of Armagh spinster of the second part and Joseph OLIVER and Benjamin OLIVER both of Ballyrea aforesaid Gent of the third part. Whereby after recits as therein it is receipted that a marriage is to be had and solemnized between the said Samuel ELGEE And Anne OLIVER sister of the said Joseph OLIVER[4] and Benjamin OLIVER[5]. The said Samuel ELGEE For the consideration [....] and for settling a competent portion of jointure for the said Anne OLIVER in case she shall survive him did grant [___] convey and confirm unto the said Joseph OLIVER and Benjamin OLIVER all that and those tenants in the Upper Ward in the town of Dundalk [____] part 82 feet in depth from the street to the Mill Race 260 feet [?] 63 feet situate lying and being in the town of Dundalk then or late in the Tenure or Occupation of Michael [Callair]? And .... to hold to the said Joseph OLIVER & Benjamin OLIVER their heirs assigns ... during the continuance of the Lease of said premises for all rentals to be had gotten or obtained thereof .... Witnessed by William HUTCHINSON[6] of Ballyrats[7] in the County of Armagh, William OLIVER[8] of Laragh in the Co. of Monaghan farmer and memorial is also witnessed by the said William HUTCHISON. William OLIVER [SEAL] Samuel ELGEE [SEAL] Joseph OLIVER [SEAL]

 



[1] Samuel Elgee of Rochvale, Co Monaghan. TO DO: I need to research this man more to understand the OLIVER family connections to this family. Also of interest is that Oscar WILDE’s mother, Lady Jane Frances WILDE was an ELGEE with Monaghan connections. Her father Charles ELGEE (1783-1821) left Ireland for India shortly after 1821 and died there in 1821. Her great-grandfather Charles ELGEE (1714-1787) as well as his eldest brother William (b. 1705) emigrated to Ireland in the 1730s and became prosperous builders in Dundalk. The fact of a Charles ELGEE’s burial recorded in Dundalk  (JAPMD, 1916) tweaks my interest. Coupled with the fact that another branch of the OLIVER family had a slight WILDE connection (William OLIVER married Mary Anne HYDE, widow of Clarendon HYDE whose mother was a WILDE), and that Drumaconnor House where Oscar’s two half sisters died in a petticoat fire also has family connections, this may prove interesting. I need to look at: de Breffny, Brian, The Irish Ancestor, no.2 (1973) 'The Paternal Ancestry of Oscar Wilde', 96-99. de Breffny, Brian, The Irish Ancestor, no.2 (1972),'Speranza's Ancestry - Maternal Lineage of Oscar Wilde', 94-103, and note by Noel Ross in the same source, (1973), 127.

[2] Anne OLIVER of Ballyrea in the County of Armagh. At this time, based on chronology and geography and associated names, I am placing her as a daughter of David OLIVER (1725-1806) and Susannah WALKER (d. 1808).  Her siblings were: Benjamin OLIVER, Martha OLIVER (married Nathaniel LESLIE), Joseph OLIVER (1764-1837) married 1stly Jane HAMILTON & then Catherine [?], William OLIVER (1764-1844) married Mary Anne HYDE & Margaret OLIVER married Patrick McCLELLAND of Ballybay, Co. Monaghan.

[3] Ballyrea in the County of Armagh. This was one of the townlands that the OLIVER family had long term connections to (documented through various leases).

[4] Joseph OLIVER (1764-1837) married 1stly Jane HAMILTON & then Catherine [?],

[5] Benjamin OLIVER died between 1837-1840 at Ballyrea. Likely he married, although I have no record.

[6] William HUTCHINSON He witnesses other OLIVER deeds. Since there is a William Scott HUTCHISON who married a Mary Anne WALKER and they had children at Ballyrea, I suspect that the Rev. William HUTCHISON may have been his father or else there is some other familial connection.

[7] Ballyrats is probably Ballyrath, Parish of Armagh, Co. Armagh. It is close to Ballyrea.

[8] William OLIVER of Laragh is likely the one who is the son of David OLIVER. This means his wife was Mary Anne HYDE and he lived from Abt. 1764 - Abt. 1844. He would have been one of her cousins (her father William OLIVER was a brother of David OLIVER)